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| Cutting the logs on-site in the jungle causes less damage to the forest than dragging out whole logs. |
Interesting statement in the article of James King:# William Belisle says :
"The Amazon, as with any tropical forest, is biologically diverse and it is not unusual for 100 species of trees to grow on one acre. No one knows in fact how many species exist."
Therfore it would be better to know first this rich forest well, before cutting him down. Or at least do a very selective cutting of trees and harvest no-timer products of this rich tropical forest, like rubber, nuts, etc.. befor cutting him down in a slash and burn method!
Joaquín Boehnert
Member od "IINCAGRO - Pozuzo - Perú
www.zonasdeamortiguamiento.org
I have been a professional woodworker for 20 years, I have also been blessed to have met and married a beutiful Peruvian woman. This article is near and dear to my heart, I would love nothing more than to be able to work with these people and help them to grow their economy through proper forestry. Any one know of how a gringo can be a part of this and help people doing something I love?# Fernando Yengle says :
I know from where I come from ( Northeast USA) many people look down upon woodworker using the exotic woods, veneers possibly, but using solid stock is frowned upon due to the perception that greedy forestry priactices are destroying the Amazon. I would love nothing more than to give my life to the cause of preserving the forestry in the Amazon, to share the beautiful with the world but alos to help build a sutainable industry that will bless the people there with a good business to be able to provide a better life for them and their families.
Anyone in Peru know how I can get involved and be a part of this?? Please let me know.
Muchas gracias y Viva el Peru!!!
Sinceramente,
William "Guillermo" Belisle
Connecticut, USA
wm.woodworker@gmail.com
What is the first thing the peruvian government should do to develop forestry in the Amazon region and what next? Would it help to hire American or other experts in the matter to develop a plan?# Jim King says :
I am a peruvian living in California and would love to see many improvements in the live of peruvians, but ultimately I believe these improvements would be good for all humanity.
Fernando Yengle
mfyengle@comcast.net
Cell: 408 890 1859
# Genaro Cabada Rosas says :I will try to answer the points that have been made.
Joaquin Boehnert says :
3 February, 2010 [ 04:55 ] Interesting statement in the article of James King:
"The Amazon, as with any tropical forest, is biologically diverse and it is not unusual for 100 species of trees to grow on one acre. No one knows in fact how many species existJoaquin.
I have lived in the Amazon about 25 years and I can tell you without question the more you know the more questions arise. Many of whom are called experts estimate we may have identified as few as 20% of the flora species here. The fact is no one knows. Every year there are millions and millions of dollars of research money donated from all over the world but the results are slim at best. The US government thru USAID and other governments donate huge sums of money ( Millions of $$ )to some of the most famous Ecology Groups in the World for use in Peru, where it goes and what results can be shown I have no idea. Living here in Iquitos and knowing most people involved in forestry I know that none of them have met these people or seen a result.
It appears that the monies received are all used in Lima to write theoretical documents and play the ecological game but I wonder how many have boots and machetes.
William Belisle says :
4 February, 2010 [ 06:39 ]William:As I mentioned above millions of dollars are poured into Peru each year to work on the problems of the Amazon. If you were to do a Google on “NGO Iquitos forestry” you will find over 60,000 web sites saying what good things they are all doing for the forest in the Iquitos, Amazon and 95% have a note in the corner where to send them money. If each one actually had one employee we would have no unemployment in Iquitos and no motor car drivers. Obviously there are some serious ones but not many.There is this whole misconception promoted by the Ecology Industry for their own self promotion that forestry is the same as deforestation and as most people do not understand they fall for it. All in the Eco Industry carry on about the incredible diversity of the forest. That is one point that no one can disagree with. Now that is also the exact reason that logging for timber products will never cause deforestation . There are no stands of Oak or Pine here that can be clear cut and reforested by helicopter. The same biodiversity that gives one or two or no viable trees to a hectare is its own forestry control. Of the hundreds of species that grow here only a handful are commercially viable.Lumber people here are not the rich lumber barons, 99% are subsistence loggers when they can be, They don´t have the time or money to be cutting down a forest for the fun of it.Fernando Yengle says :
4 February, 2010 [ 12:08 ]Fernando:I agree in that what the Amazon does so goe the future of tropical forests all over the world. We have had a tremendous problem over the past few years in that there have been forestry laws pushed upon Peru by the International ECO Industry. These laws were dreamed up over a table in New York or in Europe by people who obviously have never set foot in a tropical jungle for logging. The laws were and are so absurd that if in fact someone did pay attention to them they would have created the biggest deforestation project in the History of the Upper Amazon.The laws were made to give out 5,000 hectare parcels to anyone who could spell logging. These parcels were all several kilometers inland from any river access and just the primary and secondary access roads would have created thousands and thousands of deforestation. Fortunately the vast majority of logging or what little there is, is done illegally and without damage to the jungle or the biodiversity.The biggest problem we have now is that the small logger with his kids cannot afford $1000 for a permit to sell a couple of logs off his own land and has turned to cocaine and the kids go into prostitution due to the Eco Industry laws.There are now thousands of people growing cocaine as they can market it easier than getting piles of permits to cut a tree.This is a very complicated subject and has great socio economic issues that are going to come to a head again if not addressed. You cannot train these people to live without eating and the Eco Industry had best soon understand that.Please let the people work and live and don´t blame the deforestation of the US and Europe and the resulting pollution problems on the Amazon. The key is EDUCATION and that must start in North America and Europe.
# Jim King says :About forestry it will do fine if "Living in Peru" interview to Mr. Jose Climper, please try to do it I'm sure that you will support his plan.
Mr. Climper was interviewed in "La hora N" (Feb. 4, 2010) it's quite important to promote his idea.
# Genaro Cabada Rosas says :# amylynn says :
5 February, 2010 [ 02:04 ]
Genaro: Do you have any idea where Jose Climper can be found ? Can you give an outline of his ideas ?
jameskingpe@yahoo.es
Several people were seeking ways to help this area and its people. I invite everyone to visit ninosdelaamazonia.org You will learn about everyday indigenous life in the Peruvian Amazon and see amazing photos, all of them taken by the indigenous children. AND - you will have the opportunity to help educate indigenous youth if you so desire. Through education - we give a hand up - not a hand out. Thank you.
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