Lima, Peru | Saturday 06 September 2008 01:23 | |
By Diana P. Olano
Leslie Rivera, director of the Center for Development of the Indigenous Amazon (CEDIA) agrees with Capella, telling La Republica that the registry to be used if the law goes into affect will be "improvised and irresponsible". Rivera also mentioned that the state would need at least six years to conduct a thorough inquisition of land ownership in the Amazon, stating that even the Special Project for Land Title Deeds (PETT) failed in registering Amazon territory, only logging 20% of it in 15 years.THIS IS ANOTHER ATTEMPT TO SELL OF THE HERITAGE AND LAND OF PERU, FOR PENNIES 0N THE DOLLAR, OR JUST OUT RIGHT THEFT OF IT. TO BE CERTAIN MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WILL FLOW INTO POLITICIANS OVERSEAS BANK ACCOUNTS, WHO PUSH THIS NEW LAW THROUGH. ONCE THE LEGAL STRUCTURE IS IN PLACE, INVESTORS FROM OTHER COUNTRIES WILL BUY UP THIS VAST TRACK OF LAND, THEN PUSH ANY PERUVIAN LIVING THERE, OFF THEIR OWN LAND. THEN THEY CAN SET UP SUCH INDUSTRIAL FARMING PROJECTS, SUCH AS SOY BEAN FARMS, TO FEED OTHER COUNTRIES DEMAND FOR SUCH PRODUCTS. ONCE THE LAND IS DELETED, THEY WILL MOVE ON TO SOME WERE ELSE, LEAVING AN EVEN MORE IMPROVISED PEOPLE BEHIND. IT APPEARS MR. GARCIA IS ONE AND THE SAME AS PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH, BELIEVERS IN THE "OWNERSHIP SOCIETY". WERE A FEW OWN EVERYTHING, AND THE REST OF HUMANITY ARE SLAVES TO THEM. GARCIA EVEN WANTS TO SELL OFF MACHU PICHHU TO PRIVATE INVESTORS. THEN THEY WONDER WHY THE LOCAL FOLKS GET A LITTLE UPSET. SUCH IS THE WORLD OF GREED AND STUPIDITY WE LIVE IN.# Splaktar says :
Yeah, I really hope this law isn't passed in it's current form. They need to spend a lot more time and money investigating who owns what pieces of land and provide property deeds to locals before selling off land to outsiders.# Ana Magras says :
I think for such law to be entertained, a thorough search of titles should be done. In addition, a research on consequential advantages and disadvantages is a must before allowing the law to go into effect. I want to see Peru prosper and I feel that foreign investment can be good for the country. However, one should approach at it with an analytical mind. While Foreign investors want to gain a profit, Peru should also "gaing a profit," as well.# Silvia Trujillo says :
I agree with the previous comments that this law should not be rushed into without proper land ownership search and titles, and also researching advantages and disadvantages for the local people and the environment. I have no doubt that there are a lot of politicians' interests riding on this law being passed so irresponsibly and we should all join the residents of this region of Peru in letting government know we won't have it.# The Guardian of Aotearoa says :
I agree with R E McLean: Don't let modern dictatorship become a destruction of Enviromental issues and Peruvian Indigenous Rights. Protect and Preserve all of your Countries Natural Resourses. Take it from me: once changes to the natural Enviroment occur, never will it ever be the same and all will be lost. Trust me.# The Guardian of Aotearoa says :
One more thing i have to mention to all Peruvian s and any other Indegenous Culture Worldwide, that on a Global Enviromental prospective, you are not alone in this kind thing happening; so just remember,you have Global Support from all over World, inrespects to the Protection and Preservation of any developement formed to create destruction of Enviromental Natural Resourse and Nature.# The Guardian of Aotearoa says :
As i mentioned in my prior statement, money will replace what is lost and what was yours,will never be again.
To the Peruvian People: You have my support to protect and preserve the Amazon
my [correction] money will not replace, what is Lost# Jorge Fcoras says :
I'm a peruvian , and i feel very very upset and ungry at the same time for what our government attempts to do. selling the land of the amazon rainforest which signifies for me selling part of the lungs of the world? i would like to know, apart from destroying and the possibilitty of the overexplotation of the region, what other "benefits" do the original land owners(native indigenous peruvians,specially) will have.# Oladon says :
Garcia's AKA "caballo loco" (crazy horse)government think that by selling land in the amazon jungle they are going to create jobs for us. well for what i 've been told and tought, we are going to end up explotaited. in instead of sellingpart of the land of the jungle amazon, why dont they sell part of our precious dessert, isnt it reforestation the reason of this new "law" ?
i wish i could do more than writting this comment, i can but it means that i 'd be labelled as a "terrorist".
only the international pressure will do more than us the normal peruvians.
My heart is with the native Peruvians in their struggle. A lot of the other South American countries are going through this as well, as the Guardian mentioned; you are not alone. The government has no right to steal your land, no matter what they claim they're going to give you. I think the song "Yashingu" by the group Sarayacu really puts it well when it says (rough translation from Spanish): "What they will give you (although they don't tell) are scraps from their feast, dead rivers and misery, contaminated air; total destruction."# Ronald Graeme Mitaxa says :
Kausaita jarkashunchi!
Whilst I can understand the drive for the development of a nations wealth in regards to it's natural resources is may appear as vital to ant nation that development must be balanced against the the loss of traditional environmental habitat of native people that live in the areas where the resources are extracted. The arguement of multinational companies that tear the natural heart out a developing country to access the timber and minerals without any intention to correct the devastaton caused by their operations must not be accepted by governments.# CapitanDan says :
I read of the plan to sell off 9.5 million acres ( that is 14,843.75 square miles)of land that was stripped bare of the natural vegetation by logging and mining.I would pose the following question to the governments of developing countries.What happens to the people of such a region when the enironment and eco system that sustained their traditional way of life is taken away?
What time is required to regenerate the eco system that took thousands of years to establish.
I am an engineer that is heavily involved in infrastructure development and funding of such projects.My partners and I are constantly approached with proposals from Asian countries for project funding.
I recall one where I was requested to fund a project in North Sumatra.
The applicant claimed to have the concession over 170 square kilometres of pristine old growth rain forest. When asked what his operation was to be he replied "LOGGING, I can get US $ 140 per cubic metre for all timbers". I enquired as to what area he held this concession and as to the types of animals that were known to inhabit the area. Monkeys Elephant and Tiger came his reply.
My suggestion was to establish eco tourism through the area.
Operations of this kind not only preserve the natural heritage of vast areas but also allow the people that are indiginous to those areas the opportunity to act as forest guides to those tourists that will certainly use this style of tourist development.
I would also pose this question. How many times can a tree be sold?
Where logging is concerned that answer can only be ONCE.
With eco tourism that tree has a cash value for as long as it lives.
I would therefore urge the government to rather than sell of tha 9.5 million acres establish a reaforestation program to encompass the area. This will not only display a genuine attempt to correct the effects of previous administrations but also provide sustaainable long term employment for the traditonal indiginous people after all the well being of all of Peruvians is the responsibility of their government.
I am very suspicious of any Politician trying to hurry a Law through. It is time the Government send troops into the area and secure it from these illegal loggers. Establish order and give the people that inhabit this land a legal stake in the Forrest. Give each person that has lived there for at least 10 years at least 25 hectares to live on whether the have a title or not. As we all know anyone can get anything for a few Soles. Survey the land .Document these titles for the people , then make the rest a reserve for operated and owned by the government. This reserve will be administered by a group of elected officials from the territory. The Tribes that inhabit this area will be given a priority when it comes to Logging,mining or whatever natural resources the government wants to exploit.Chau Friends# Jim Beam says :
# Jon says :Garcia, Like Bush in the US is a crook. This country is going to go Socialist as we say "like stank on shit" or for the sensible ones "like white on rice" The president of this country is prostituting the country out from under the noses of its citizens, who, unfortunately were stupid enough to elect him for a second time. Its a sad matter, but the Peruvians, just like the jack ass Americans who voted for Bush, get what they deserve. Both countries will go to hell in a handbag. Democracy it a very powerful tool, be careful who you grant power to.
Jim Beam, who did you vote for? And by the way it's, to hell in a hand basket.# Jim Beam says :
For someone with such a keen sense of observation, I would think that it would be easy to deduce the answer to your question.# PERUANO IN THE US says :
When something "goes to hell" it means it's deteriorating rapidly, or on a path headed for destruction. Example:
First it rained, then a raccoon got into the food; it looked like our whole picnic was going to hell.
"Going to hell in a handbag" (sometimes said as "going to hell in a handbasket") simply means going to hell a lot faster and without any effort! (Since a handbag is easy to carry.) Example:
Ever since Pee Wee Herman was caught watching that X-rated movie, his career has gone to hell in a handbag.
LADY'S AND GENTLELMEN:FIRST I LIKE TO EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION FOR SO MANY FOREING VOICES SHOUTING OUT YOUR LEGITIMATE CONCERNS AND GENUINE LOVE FOR MY COUNTRY, WHICH LETS ME PERCEIVE YOU ALL ARE GOOD HUMANS AND RESPECTFUL OF THE ENVIROMENT.# Erik Stone says :
alan garcia SHOULD BE GLOBALY DENUNCED BEFORE THE UNITED NATIONS,UNICEF,HUMAN RIGHTS AT THE HAGE AND ANY OTHER WORLD ORGANIZATION IN DEFENCE OF HUMAN AND NARURAL LIFE .HE ALSO SHOULD BE HELD IN JUDGEMENT OF THE MANY ATROCITIES HE MADE IN HIS FIRST TERM IN PUBLIC OFICE, AND APPOINT HIM ACCOUNTABLE AND FUND HIM GUILTY BEFORE THE GREAT AUDIENCE OF THE PUBLIC OPINION,AND BE SENT FISRT TO BE MENTALY EVALUATED BECAUSE IT'S WELL KNOWN THAT HE IS A MANIC DEPRESSIVE,AND AFTER THAT BE SENT TO STAND TRIAL AND RIGHTFULY FIND HIM GUILTY OF FRAUD AND ILLICIT ENRICHMENT WITH PUBLIC FUNDS.
THIS SO CALL jungle law, IS NOTHING MORE OF OTHER OF HIS MACHIAVELIC SKIMS FOR PAVING THE WAY FOR HIS FORTH COMMING OUTHRIGHT HAIGHWAY ASSOULT AGAINST THE POOR INDIOS OF THE AMAZONS COMPLETLY FORGOTTEN FOR PERUVIAN GOVERMENTS SINSE THE 1500's. HE IS PLANNING TO GET KICK BACKS BY PERMITING OUTSIDRES SEATING UP SHOP BEFORE HE LEAVES OFFICE,HE DOES NOT CARE ONE BIT ABOUT WHOM HE SACRIFICES OR DESTITUDES, THE man IS AS LOW A HUMAN CAN REACH.I WONDER WHY IS IT HE DID NOT STOOD TRIAL UPON HES ARRIVAL AFTER HES SCAPE,AND AS FOR MY COUNTRYMEN, THEY SURE DESERVE WHAT THEY ARE GETTING FOR PUT HIM UP FOR OFFICE AGAIN,. AND WHY IS IT THAT FUGIMORY IS BEING HELD TO SATND TRAIL NOW,THE ONLY MISTAKE HE MADE, WAS TO HAVE THE ILL BRAIN OF montesinos AS HIS SECURITY ADVISOR, WHAT HE DID NOT KNOW WAS THA THIS CROOK HAD VERY BIG INTENTIONS.FUJIMORY DIID A LOT OF GOOG FOR THE COUNTRY, AND IN HIS QUEST FOR KILLING ALL TRACES OF sendero IS NOT HIS FAULT IF INOCENT PAID WITH THEIR LIFES IN LA CANTUTA UNIVERSITY, AFTER ALL THOSE STUDENTS WERE UP DANZING TO THE MACAVE TUNE OF THE senderistas. AND WHO CAN FORGET THE NEAR PERFECT BLOW FUJIMORY PLANNED TO SURPRICED THE 17 OR SO MENTALY WASHED, COLD KILLERS PEONS OF guzman WHEN HE GAVE THE ORDER OF FIRE TO ALL OF THEN AND THUS RELEASE THE 300 PLUS HOSTAGES IN THE NIPON EMBASSY???
I'D LIKE YOUR COMMENTS PLEASE.
THANK YOU,
PERUVIAN IN THE US
Garcia may not be a great guy. Bush might not be either, but don't hate them too much, for then you won't have any hate left when someone worse gets elected.# Dave says :Wow, most of you guys are all afraid to use your real names. Still used to socialist government dictators I see. Speak out and use your real names while you still can. Ronald and Jorge, props to you guys. I'm going to use my real name while I still can, since we may have a socialist dictator here in the US very soon. The rest of you will have your chance to vote in your dictator in the next election and then you can go back to using your cute names like "Peruano in the US." Lol. You live in my country and despise Garcia for allowing Peru to become more like the US. I'm not surprised. Many US citizens would like the US to become more like other countries that they would never dream of living in. . .There are many people in the world that are starving and dying. Without intelligent people who use land efficiently, the current population of the world wouldn't be alive today. We are fast becoming globally connected. Living in the rain forest on your own, isolated, on undocumented land is part of the past, like it or not. Me, I don't like it, but I can adapt. Fighting usually postpones the inevitable, but in this case it could make things much worse for everyone, for most of the farmers who live there, and for most anyone else who wants to make a better life for themselves on the land. Investors, by the way, can also be farmers, peruvian, and intelligent, or they can be foreigners, or many other things. The word "invest" basically means putting energy into something and getting something more or better out of that energy at a later day. Either way, I doubt the land is being used to it's fullest potential right now. If one farmer gets kicked off his/her land so 10 other people can survive and have good lives, I say, that's a good thing. If you don't think that's good, then you'd rather see 9 people die for 1. Then hey, for you people, that's why we have war and communism and stuff like that, so you can kill 9 people to save the life of one and feel good about it. Sucks to be that farmer, but it also sucks being the baby that gets aborted, or being that person born with aids too. . . Some things are preventable, some things are not.
Erik,
Well said, and always give props to Jim Beam.
Cheers
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