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Hugo Chavez and Communist Influence Concern Peru's Authorities

(LIP-ir) -- According to Peru's Correo newspaper, despite the fact that nationalists may deny it, there is a political agenda behind all of the social help the ALBA offices and the Venezuelan government are giving Peru.

Correo printed that evidence of this could be seen the day that 105 people from Loreto, Peru were leaving for Venezuela to have eye surgery performed, as red banners with the face of Hugo Chávez on them and phrases allusive to communism waved in the city of Iquitos.

According to Peru's Chancellor, José Antonio García Belaunde, the appearance of the ALBA offices and the help they are providing, will be investigated by the Peruvian International Cooperation Agency (APCI).

ALBA, the Bolivarian Alternative for Latin America, was proposed by Venezuela as an alternative to the U.S. sponsored Free Trade Area of the Americas (FTAA). Peru's Prime Minister and members of congress have expressed their disapproval of ALBA offices funded by Venezuela to be established in Peru.

The Regional President of Puno, Hernán Fuentes, has supported the establishment of such offices and has also been harshly criticized since he made the decision to allow them in various regions under his control.

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# Juan Blake says :
1 August, 2007 [ 08:25 ]

This is no suprise at all. SUTEP with all the puppet strings attached. Mr. Castro, Baby Huey, "Chavez," followed by Humala, & then Mr. Munoz as a recent example.

# sunocean says :
1 August, 2007 [ 18:58 ]

If you subscribe to Americanized US propaganda yes,  otherwise hey man free medical attention is not something to balk at.

# Juan Blake says :
2 August, 2007 [ 07:18 ]

There is no such thing as free, man. How do you think the government aquires its operating capital? Oh that's right, there is a tree in the center of Plaza de Armas that sprouts Peruvian Sol's from its branches. Or maybe the endless supply of cash that can be printed on the currency press. The Socialist propaganda/doctrine would have people believe this.

# Lily says :
2 August, 2007 [ 17:26 ]

Response to  SUNOCEAN

Americanized propaganda??? you must be another American hater. 

 

# Jason W. Smith, Ph.D. says :
2 August, 2007 [ 17:46 ]

I think the most interesting thing to develop over the last six months has been the de facto competition between the FTAA Gringo initiative and the ALBA Left initiative. I predict that the future will see intense competition between these two blocs.
Yes medical care is expensive and paid for by the Cuban, Venezuelan, Bolivian, and Nicaraguan peoples, and such advances are the only legitimate reason for Government to begin with. Here in the area of public medicine the ALBA bloc beats the Gringo FTAA block hands down.
On the other hand the FTAA guys are going to score some victories of their own. There are certain things they may be able to offer undecided Latin countries on better terms than ALBA. I think this is going to turn into a kind of Real Estate Finance competion as it is here in the States where brokers take homeowners and commercial builders to different banks and the bank (bloc) that offers the best terms gets the deal. Only time will tell which bloc wins out. Personally, of course, I favor Chavez, Castro, Morales, and Ortega.
But the key thing in the decade is going to be the competition between Washington's FTAA bloc a

# Jason W. Smith, Ph.D. says :
2 August, 2007 [ 17:46 ]

I think the most interesting thing to develop over the last six months has been the de facto competition between the FTAA Gringo initiative and the ALBA Left initiative. I predict that the future will see intense competition between these two blocs.
Yes medical care is expensive and paid for by the Cuban, Venezuelan, Bolivian, and Nicaraguan peoples, and such advances are the only legitimate reason for Government to begin with. Here in the area of public medicine the ALBA bloc beats the Gringo FTAA block hands down.
On the other hand the FTAA guys are going to score some victories of their own. There are certain things they may be able to offer undecided Latin countries on better terms than ALBA. I think this is going to turn into a kind of Real Estate Finance competion as it is here in the States where brokers take homeowners and commercial builders to different banks and the bank (bloc) that offers the best terms gets the deal. Only time will tell which bloc wins out. Personally, of course, I favor Chavez, Castro, Morales, and Ortega.
But the key thing in the decade is going to be the competition between Washington's FTAA bloc and

# sunocean says :
2 August, 2007 [ 18:37 ]

Well this is interesting to see what kind of political climate there is in the English speaking possibly expatriate population about Peru.  We can see the educated intelligent side as well as the totally ignorant  arch conservative type  Bush lovers coming out of the woodwork.  It would be nice to see how young Peruvian bilingual persons would express their political bent.  In this way,  one could learn more about their politics. He he, that would be nice.   For those who hate Chavez it would be amazing if they ever exposed themselves to one of America's premier dissidents like Noam Chomsky and his book on American Hegonomy in Latin America.  

# Dewey says :
3 August, 2007 [ 09:16 ]

Sunocean, the "intelligent" vs "totally ignorant... Bush lovers" comment makes it pretty clear where you stand; however, what about us that can't stand Bush, yet also think that following Chavez and ALBA will lead to ruin? I also don't see what is so "intelligent" about following a philosphy that has failed time and time again throughout history. Immediately siding with whatever goes against current US policy (or the socialist ideal for that matter), regardless of the merit of that particular issue, is far from "intelligent."

# sunocean says :
3 August, 2007 [ 10:49 ]

I don't see Chavez as some evil dictator nor a stereotype communist or Socialist.  I feel that here is  leader for one of the first times in Latin history that is attempting to balance the inequalities of Latin economics by not letting fat cats control all the money including Multinational corporations. He is putting money into helping the poor,  improving national infrastructure and helping Latin America get on its own feet instead of being slaves to the multinational corporations.  Chavez is bringing all the wonderful things like education and medical care that Americans are getting less of. US cannot even support the repair of it's own bridges or have sufficient national guard to protect it's cities as it spends all it's efforts on illegal foreign wars.  Hah,  so there.  

# Jason W. Smith, Ph.D. says :
3 August, 2007 [ 13:01 ]

Well Sunocean I think you expressed exactly the feeling most progressive people have about Chavez world wide. I noticed on his website

http://www.abn.info.ve/ver.php?lee=17
the other day that he was critical of Karl Marx support of the USA during what we call the First Mexican War to the degree that he said he wasn't a Marxist but a socialist. I thought at the time I can understand that - it reminds me of when the UK was at war with Argentina over the Malvinas/Falklands in that the Left and especially Marxists world wide were supporting Argentina. Not me. I had twice been a prisoner of fascist forces as I have described in my autobiography and that vicious bunch of sadistic killers and exploiters in B.A,. got no support from me. In fact in a forthcoming volume of my autobiography I describe helping MI6 connect with Sendero in Peru in order to attack and destroy Peruvian government Exocet missiles before they could leave Peru and get to Argentina's fascist military ruling clique. In this I was successful and managed to strike back against my enemy - not necessarily anyone elses.
Sunocean is correct in everything she says and the important thing is that world wide everyone recognizes that Chavez is the greatest thing for Latin America since Fidel Castro and Castro the greatest since Simon Bolivar.
Well that ought to set off the right wing nutballs!
Best wishes, Jason W. Smith, Ph.D.

# Dewey says :
3 August, 2007 [ 14:34 ]

Funny, every Venezuelan that I talk to thinks he is destroying the country from within. I live in Peru, so I may not be collecting a representative sample, but their impression is that the only ones that are happy are his cronies that are getting something for nothing.

As can be seen from history, socialist or communist regimes have never been the result of popular demand, but rather a forced impostion by a select few that rule through fear and oppresion; thus they have collapsed as a result of the overwhelming dissatisfaction of the hoardes that must carry the weight.

I have been to Cuba and seen the poverty, theft, poor living conditions, fear, $2 hookers, etc. Every person I met had one or more relatives that didn't want to bend over for the cause, so they were "disappeared." I wouldn't want to live under those conditions and frankly feel that those who think that Castro is the model of success have severe learning disabilities.

# sunocean says :
3 August, 2007 [ 14:51 ]

Dude,  Chavez was elected by an overwhelming majority despite the CIA's attempt to overthrow his government.   Jimmy Carter appproved the legitimacy of his election.  I suppose you consider Jimmy Carter a commy rat now. 

# Jason W. Smith, Ph.D. says :
3 August, 2007 [ 15:09 ]

Mr. Dewey reads different history books than I do or for that matter any professor I know. Be that as it may I have been in Cuba too  - four years ago - and I thought it was extraordinarily advanced in every way. I never saw a healthier population of people anywhere in the world. I'm afraid that as much as I looked at "the Street" (my reason for going alone on my own and without guides) what I saw reminded me more or less of exactly what I thought I would see - i.e., Mexico City 1962. I didn't see any two dollar hookers although there were a few women around and available - not that that means anything necessarily. I did meet many educated and active young people and I could see that despite all the great difficulties heaped upon the Cuban people by the fascist regime on the Potomac that all in all Cubans are plunging ahead with the most advanced public health system in the Western Hemisphere, universal public education through college, and some of the most interesting conversations I have ever had anywhere. On my own, walking around unhindered, unwatched - all hours of the night as well as the day (I was only in Habana but even so...)
Most importantly I could see that Cuba stands as a beacon of freedom and democracy, and social justice, and with luck will succeed as time proceeds in constructing true socialism and eventually communism.
I wish them the best of luck and as always have placed myself at the service of the international working class movement at home and abroad in hard times as well as good times. 

# sunocean says :
3 August, 2007 [ 15:33 ]

Thank you Jason,  this has been my impression about Cuba as well but I only know of this from keeping up with alternative news sources.  As Mr. Dewey has stated all his sources are contrary in Peru and about Cuba.  In this case it is who you hang around with and whom you prefer to listen to.  One must be much more diligent these days than to trust our friends that keep us comfortable in our ignorance or to listen to  the controlled media which is owned by conglomerates who wish to perpetuate the status quo.  Well good sirs,  this should stir up a little dialogue. At least we still have the freedom to have different points of view here,  although I wouldn't be surprized at seeing this whole section deleted shortly! 

# Jason W. Smith, Ph.D. says :
3 August, 2007 [ 15:59 ]

I do appreciate the commentary I read here. I really don't know any of the persons involved but some of the comments are quite informative, naturally some will be mainly belligerant or combative (including my own from time to time when the subject matter warrants it as in the current attempt of the trillionaire ruling families in the US to find a base of operations on the South American continent - and they see Garcia as the one most likely to give it to them since he needs a lot of money now at the end of his life upon which to retire and this is his last chance to steal it)
I was impressed in Cuba with the sincerity of the people I met and their overall committment to the course their country is following. A nice change from all those self-serving greedy guzanos in Florida.
I like going to different news sources too which is how I found this one.
Sometime you might go to my master MSN website and on the left you will see many buttons to the world's communist press - in English or Spanish for the most part. http://groups.msn.com/JasonSmithcom
-And, if you want to see the most important recent developments in Marxist theory--accepted at least by the mainstream international communist movement--you may enjoy chapters 3 through 8 of my new book FUNDAMENTALS OF HISTORICAL MATERIALISM, BOKLSHEVISM 2007 available for downloading at no charge in 2 parts at http://www.idahosmith.com. I mention this because next May those particular chapters will be the focus of the international Marxist meeting in Habana. I believe to the best of my knowledge that this is the first time there has been a sequence of sociocultural pre-capitalist stages explained in a fashion that conforms fully to the model used by Marx in Capital for the capitalist stage. In presenting this stage sequential series of models many believe I have completed the task Marx set himself in 1877, dying before he could finish that work in 1883.

# Dewey says :
3 August, 2007 [ 19:54 ]

"Dude,  Chavez was elected by an overwhelming majority despite the CIA's attempt to overthrow his government."

Dude, so what, Bush was elected as well and no I don't consider Jimmy Carter as anything other than a former President that once had an unpure thought. Garcia was elected by a majority too (which still baffles the hell out of me that someone that can destroy a country and flee in shame, can return after the statute of limitations has expired for his crimes and then get reelected, but that's another topic). And by the way, the "overwhelming majority" was 58%, according to the Venezuelan Electoral Council.


"One must be much more diligent these days ... to listen to  the controlled media ... who wish to perpetuate the status quo."

Doesn't the fact that Chavez closed down RCTV, the only media outlet that was critical of his politics, concern you at all? And you think I read "controlled media," ??????


"Mr. Dewey reads different history books than I do..."

Apparently so, as I still think you're nuts. And that's something coming from me as I fled the US in disgust several years ago. But guess what? You get to openly state your opinion and critize your gov't because you live in a country that allows that form of dissent. If you lived in Cuba, and disagreed with Castro's philosophy, you would be unable to express your view without fear of reprimand. Just as one of the many Cuban or Venezuelan journalists that were critical of their government... oh wait, they might have been killed already. I think we're up to 5 murdered journalists so far this year in Venezuela.

# sunocean says :
3 August, 2007 [ 21:21 ]

You obviously feel threatened by Mr Chavez and see things from your point of view.  If you look into anything in more detail you discover that just the opposite view could be taken about RCTV.  Well that's how life goes,  people with the biggest egos have their way usually.  It so happens that he could have shut them down a long time ago but did not until now.  He has been in office quite a while,  legitimately elected and well appreciated by the majority of his citizens.  Moreover,  Chavez has shut down little who  put out agendas against him. He doesn't really have to worrry at all about them.  He has to worry more about the CIA.  Other media operations that are unsympathetic to him are still alive and well.  Your  view of reality will always be colored by your past experiences.  You have very little openess to other points of view than what could protect your present reality.  By the way I can appreciate that you left USA with disgust but I would not expect them to be for particularly  so called "liberal"  reasons as you still do not seem to appreciate peoples freedom,  just the "idea"  of freedom  which is usually an empty word used for propaganda purposes.  Like  "freedom"  for Iraqi's so that according to the Brookings Institution 600,000 Iraqi's have died since we "liberated" them.   Keep talking Dewey,  this is great.  We all get a chance to express our truths and maybe we can learn something from each other.  

# Dewey says :
4 August, 2007 [ 10:42 ]

Thanks for the dialogue Sun. You at least try to make a civil point instead of cutting and pasting commie rags and self-promoting your own failed books. Of course I appreciate peoples freedoms. One of the reasons I left the US was because of loss of freedoms from the Patriot Act and other Bush-driven policies. I don't consider myself a "right-winger" or a "liberal" either, and certainly not a libertarian. I don't think there is a classification for my views, but I guess the closest name would be a socially liberal capitalist. But getting back to the topic, my problem with communism is that "freedom" doesn't exist and never can in a top-down, control through intimidation, society.

My opinion of Chavez is not based on my experience and not from any US news outlets, as I don't read or view US papers or TV, soley from Venezuelans and what I see regarding the systematic destruction of free journalism in that country.

# Alan says :
4 August, 2007 [ 17:00 ]

Dewey, you're arguing with fanatics, a sport that has long proven to be useless.

How can anyone in their right minds who are reasonably conversant with history believe - in this day and age - that one man (Castro, Chavez, Hitler, Mussolini, Peron, Velazco, etc, etc, etc.) can lead a nation into prosperity and liberty. In spite of hard historical fact that proves the contrary, our friends Jason W. Smith and Sunocean are typical of those who would see Peru back in the hands of a Messiah (Velasco, Humala) who believe that the people are incapable of judging for themselves and thus deny them the liberty to do so.


Alan

# sunocean says :
4 August, 2007 [ 19:31 ]

Dewey I could see getting to know you and slowly and patiently because I read and study these issues I feel that I could reason with you especially if I could keep you out of the hands of hopeless fanatical arch conservatives like Alan who I think are the kind of friends you hang out with in Peru.  I am hoping that there are people or expatriates that might not be so prejudiced against Chavez.  Sorry Alan,  say what you like about me,  I can't help it. 

# Dewey says :
4 August, 2007 [ 22:28 ]

Sun, first, I don't hang with expats. I married a local peruvian and am totally immersed. I like to read and comment at this site because its the only chance I get to speak English. I tend to shy away from anyone that is too fanatical, to the right or left, but Alan makes a point you can't dispute. Regardless of what Jason says, communism has failed repeatedly throughout history. And no I don't consider living below the poverty line in Cuba an example of success.

Any student with half a brain can tell you that economy is predicated upon the principle of supply and demand. In a communist society, the gov't dictates what people need and it is forced upon them to generate the needed supply in the allotted time (and to fatten the purses of the gov't cronies who produce the goods). As communism also stifles innovation and eliminates any incentive for improvement, the goods produced are of exceptionally poor quality and either over or under produced. Top it off with a grossly oversized bureaucracy of bandwagon jumpers and of course its doomed for failure.

So what is the answer for society's woes? I have no fricking clue and I'm not pompous enough to say I have the answer, but I'm certainly not going to repeat the same mistakes that have been made throughout history either.

# sunocean says :
4 August, 2007 [ 22:40 ]

Your thinking is so conceptual Dewey.  Look at China those idiots are what you are speaking of and they produce excellent goods.  I can't spend time with this stuff now,  maybe later

# Alan says :
5 August, 2007 [ 11:09 ]

Dewey, your last comment was precise and to the point and reflects concisely my views (and those of the majority) on modern political economy.
To set the record straight I have lived in Peru for over 50 years and have had direct personal experience of the ups and downs of it's economy. This country does not need a messiah to lead it into prosperity - it has already seen the failure of more than one. 
Prosperity will come over time through the right mix of liberal economic and democratic policies based on education freely available to everyone. A difficult goal in a country such as this with it's complex geography.

Messianic leaders arise today in nations where there exist large pockets of poor, uneducated populations that have been ignored through centuries of of short sited self seeking governments and are therefore desperate enough to believe that a messiah will provide the answer to their problem. Peru is one of these, but which appears now, to have found (through three successive government periods) the right road to prosperity and education for ALL it's inhabitants. Peru does not need the intervention of foreigners who wish to create blocs to compete with an "arch enemy".

It bothers me not al all to be called a "hopeless fanatical arch conservative" by people who are unable to read and interpret history and apply that knowledge to the current situation.
Sunocean, and I say it without rancour, you will be witness to the failure of messianic leaders who believe that they, and they alone, hold the key to the prosperity of nations.
Finally, if you read the news you will not have missed the fact that those 'excellent goods' you mention are having to be recalled because they do not meet FDA standards.

# sunocean says :
5 August, 2007 [ 14:43 ]

You guys can pat yourself on the backs all you like.  Basically you are old people with old ideas that grew up in the cold war and never saw beyond Russian and Chinese communism as something you could generalize to anyone else who has the slightest mention of socialism  (it so happens most modern successful democracies are socialsim and the US is one the cheapest ass ones of all).  All the so called Messiahs you are talking about in Latin America have almost zero to do wtih your old ideas.  Lulu from Brazil is a Socialist way beyond your conceptions.  Morales has zero to do with your ideas and  Michelle (forget her last name) Pres of Chile is a Socialist so called as well as Chavez.  These leaders are doing wonderful things for their countries under the circumstances with which they were left with when the began.  Now even Dewey is aware that Alan Garcia is an outright criminal and most of  you old guys will take his words--double speak words for reality.  In reality Garcia is a  Yale "skull and bones"  graduate and he won't blink twice to sell off Peru to his criminal cronies back  in the US.  Come on let's get some life in this tread.  Where are some young people.  I need help,  I'm an old fart of 67 years.  

# Dewey says :
5 August, 2007 [ 19:53 ]

Ha. well, I'm in my early 40s, so only part way over the hill. I have no problem with Lulu, Kirchner, Bachelet (Chile) or their social programs. Chile is the most socially advanced country in South America. Ever wonder why? Because they made investment very attractive decades ago, it still is, and it is still stimulating their economy. They are years ahead of anyone else down here. The leaders I mentioned all run countries driven by capitalism and they aren't afraid to admit it. My problem with Chavez (aside from the fact that he is slowly eliminating social, political, and jouralistic freedoms) is that he is a capitalist, selling his oil the US, but he talks crap about any other country that tries to trade with the US. Its all a show because bashing the US is popular (hell, even most Americans do it). Morales is simply a dumbass that has been blinded by Chavez' oil dollars. Bolivia is on the road to ruin and will only survive if Venezuela keeps paying the tab, which isn't going to last forever. Kind of like that girl you dated back in high school, you kept buying the dinners, but when she still wouldn't put out, you eventually cut her loose.

# alex says :
6 August, 2007 [ 00:10 ]

Raise your hand whoever lived under a rock at the bottom of the ocean during the 90's????
Hmmm, i can see a few hand on the air, hahahahahaha
Haven't you guys learned that communism and socialism are not the way to go? I mean,let's pretend that Venezuela has no oil power, what does it turn into then?...another poor version of cuba or the former USRR?
Let's get real guys, one form of government cannot work the same for types of societies. It is sad that an organism like ALBA has been able to grab hold in Peru, but, I trust that soon enough we'll be getting rid of it.
Call me crazy, but i find fanatism, in all of it forms, a pretty annoying symptom if ignorance. Peruvians (and I proudly call myself one) have endured influences like the one Chavez and "his gang of misfits" is trying to project over our society; taking advantage of poor regions of the country and the need of its people, but we have been able to endure that...one thing the members of the ALBA group don't realize is that WE PERUVIANS, don't like to be told how to think....and we are very proud of our background regardless of what everyone else might think of.
We like our freedom, we like to make fun of our political leaders, we like to grab our money and leave the country without a silly government telling us that we can or cannot, and above all....we think we are better than them, so.....tough luck ALBA!!!...Better luck next time or, even better, never!

# Kriss Martins says :
6 August, 2007 [ 00:36 ]

I am 35, a bilingual Peruvian-American living in the USA for 18 years.  I came here with just one piece of luggage and $100 dollars.  During the first year I had my high school diploma, five years later I had a Computer engineering degree.  I have been working in the computer-Internet industry since then.  I was a CTO (Chief Technical Officer) the highest title in my field by 2003.  Then I was the President of a corporation (that went public in Nasdaq while I was President) by 2006 and now I own and run an international ecommerce company selling products via the internet in the USA, Europe and all of Latin America.  Here you go you asked for some younger people.

Now, I know free trade works; I do it every day, now.  Look guys this is very simple, only the smartest and the most capable business person can survive in a free enterprise - free markets system.  The problem with any other system is that people is out there waiting for handouts from the governments with out having to work for them or with out expecting to pay back for them in the future.  There is no such a thing as a free lunch and we all know that.  Let me tell you something; do not be afraid to compete, if I can do it you can too.

At the end of the day this is what I think.  If you do not like the gringos, the best thing you can do is BEAT them at their own game, Capitalism.  Do not hate them because they can do more than you can, or because they have more money than you do, or because they have more influence than you or for that matter your government have.  Take the POSITIVE road and compete with them, if you succeed you will be happier. Here is the caveat, if you think their system is broken or have something wrong with it, fix it along the way and if you win with your better system there will be no discussion about it,  you can come here and tell us all your system is better because it works period.

Your comments and suggestions are welcome.

Kriss 

# sunocean says :
6 August, 2007 [ 01:50 ]

Just thinking about your personal salvation is not enough.  Unfortunately it usually leads to greed.  Yes,  you will hopefully take care of your friends and family,  but that usually leads to cronism again.  That's why we need people like Chavez because he is taking the power away from the few that benefits from their oil and mineral riches because they were selfish.  Understand.  Yes, they were selfish dude,  and that doesn't lead to taking care of anyone else but numero Uno.  Do you want a society of people that kill their opposition like the rest of the Latin dictators that were supported by American corporate power in Latin  History.  Chavez is giving the people a break.  Give some power to the people.  You did good my friend  but the world needs help.  We can't all pull ourselves up by our bootstraps.  A lot of people are suffering out there and no one is helping them.  Let's have a society where people do not only think of themselves but think of others as well,  not just your friends and family.  Ok,  delete me.  I'm not your run of the mill selfish capitalist,  sorry.  I really can't believe the only dissenters from the view of this article are an aging Communist scholar and myself,  an old fashioned liberal.  

# sunocean says :
6 August, 2007 [ 03:16 ]

For example,  Chavez is giving poor people a little land, giving them a chance to grow their own food and become self sufficient or sell some of their surplus for income.  The other way that has been the example of multi national corporations and greedy land owners has been simply to make poor people slaves to their enterprises,  to give the people sub standard wages and keep all the money for themselves.  This is not socialism,  it is so-called Capitalism that you all so praise.  Is this what you want for humanity,  to make huge gulfs of inequalities between human beings.  As I said it is easy to become greedy if other people support your greed.  It becomes like a sickness and people lose their humanity, lose their heart.  Why do you think there is war in the world.  It doesn't have to be at all.  The world out there is crazy.  Do you like it this way??

# Anama says :
6 August, 2007 [ 09:06 ]

Send them home now!! Ask for a visa for this people and track their activities! Peruvians don't need the threat of cummunism again, after those years of terrorism and crime. They are using poor people by giving them "medical attention" and what they are doing in fact is washing their brains. We peruvians DON"T LIKE Chavez, we think he is nuts with power (oil) and  he is following "the devil" US policy steps: Putting his nose in what is not his bussinesses. If venezuelans like him, good for them! . We peruvians don't want more crimes, blood, pain, violence. We don't want to leave in fear and to be ordered about what kind of TV channels or books are good for us, we don't want to be told what to think. That is the lack of comunism, they think that they have the duty to teach you the right way, the right system, either you like it or not, because that is what weapons were made for, right? to "convince" people.

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23 July, 2009 [ 04:31 ]

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# Carlos Benavides says :
23 July, 2009 [ 20:50 ]

I am Peruvian & Support Hugo Chavez & Ollanta Humala and have many Friends & Family Members in Peru who also support Chavez Humala & Morales.

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