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Peru goal in 93rd minute ties match against Argentina

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Israel J. Ruiz

After battling down the field and breaking free from two Argentine players, an assist from Juan Vargas in the 93rd minute of the game to Johan Fano gave Peru's national selection a much needed tie.

With a new attitude and a fresh team of players, Peru's national team has brought hope back to football fans in the Andean nation.

Even though Peru's match against Argentina ended in a tie and did not give the selection the three points it desperately needs, faith and confidence have been restored in Peruvian football fans across the country.

Playing offensively from kick-off, covering Argentina aggressively and running after every lose ball were key factors in Peru's tie.

While many believed Argentina would break its three-game streak of ties, Peru's national team battled to the end and managed to score in the last minute of the game.

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# Oliver says :
11 September, 2008 [ 04:44 ]

Brilliant gol!.

Happy with this team now, since it has been proven that they have the determination to succeed.

Now they just need to ease in guerrero and then farfan, this will hopefully  ensure that the new team dynamics are not disturbed too much. We do not want individualistic players who do want to give 110% due to fear of  getting injured. If we keep going like this we should get some good results

# Mike says :
11 September, 2008 [ 08:01 ]

Does Peru have any prospects left to qualify for the world cup?

# rice and sugar says :
11 September, 2008 [ 08:38 ]

Johan Fano was my next door neighboor, though I am a lot older than he is, he was a hyper little 5-yr old. I remember once teaching him to play volleyball ...I didn't know then he had more interest in soccer...
Viva Huanuco!

# Oliver says :
11 September, 2008 [ 09:35 ]

Yes, mathematically and if they win their next few matches it could still qualify. Nonetheless we want our team to win it gives us great national pride when it does. Check out the ladder if you are if you are interested.

# rice and sugar says :
11 September, 2008 [ 12:23 ]

I doubt we will qualify for wold cup. It's OK.
I did not see England in the last Euro Cup, but I know there is great soccer there.
In Peru, it has been a while (since the 1970's) since Peruvians played soccer with passion and skill. Johan Fano and Juan Vargas, little kids playing soccer in the Peruvian streets, they bring hope that Peruvians can still play a good game!!!
Viva Johan! Viva Huanuco!

# peloflex says :
11 September, 2008 [ 14:13 ]

rice and sugar,

Francisco Bolognesi would be ashamed of you being peruvian...

Have you ever heard the phrase that reads "if you dont have something nice to say... is better for you to stay silent...." ?

Man! these players left everything they have on the field... and you can't even respect that?

# Mike says :
11 September, 2008 [ 14:57 ]

When was the last time Peru qualified for the world cup?

# peloflex says :
11 September, 2008 [ 15:38 ]

Spain 82!

Here is a little bit of history:

We did not qualify to the next one because of Argentina.

First they sent into the field a unknown player named Camino, who's only mission was to injure our best player then Franco Navarro who was making lots of goals... this Camino guy went straight to break Navarro's leg and he did!!! not long after the match had started.

The argentinian coach was counting on having Camino red carded after that, he was willing to sacrifice one player because Navarro was unstoppable... but Camino barely got a yellow card. so they kept his 11 players.

Peruvians fought really hard throughout the entire game and kept the score on their favor until the very last minute when argentinians score in a very unclear and unfair way... they just pushed everyone into Peru's goal... they pushed players, used their hands and no one knows how but they put the ball into Peru's goal and the referee made it count... same story as usual. They didn't even win this game, they needed a tie to qualify and they did with a 2-2.

you can find videos of this at youtube.com  search Camino against Peru or something like that.

# rice and sugar says :
11 September, 2008 [ 15:46 ]

Peloflex,
I am sure Francisco Bolognesi played good soccer.

But you never even read my messages properly. I am so proud of the Peruvian soccer team of today...They were amazing, and even if they don't qualify for the world cup, I am still proud of them. Particularly because Fano was my neighbour in Huanuco, and I saw him play when he was 5 yrs old...and funny you mentioned the Great Franco Navarro (He is a distant geneologic cousin...)
I don't play soccer at all..though

# Paolo Guerrero says :
11 September, 2008 [ 15:49 ]

Yeah, and Claudio Pizarro is my sister.

# Mike says :
11 September, 2008 [ 15:59 ]

So, basically, rice and sugar is just being realistic - there is very little chance of Peru making the world cup.  Regardless of how hard these fellows play.

There isn't much interest in Peru in having quality atheletes or sports teams.  If there was, the olympics and things like the world cup would not be such an issue for so long.

None of which has to do with being loyal to Peru and the efforts made by the atheletes against overwhelming odds.

# peloflex says :
11 September, 2008 [ 16:29 ]

Mike,

I came back in here cause I found the link to the youtube video that I was talking about on my prior post, but I found your latest comment and now I see that you are a person that just want to see the negative part of things.

I guess I will save the video for someone worth it and interested in soccer history. in the meantime you can just keep on following the pesimistic rice and sugar's lead.

so long!

# peloflex says :
11 September, 2008 [ 16:39 ]

rice and sugar,

I am afraid you don't even know who Francisco Bolognesi is...  only that would explain your lack of respect to him.

You say I never read your messages right?

Take a look at your very first sentence.

"I DOUBT WE WILL QUALIFY FOR WORLD CUP...."

We are only half way through this whole two year qualification process and you are already saying you doubt? we are still 10 games away from the end... that's 30 points!!!

All I can think is that you either have a crystal ball or you are just another pathetic loser. Don't try to blame me for whatever image you represent with your own words.

# Alfredo says :
11 September, 2008 [ 16:59 ]

Peloflex is right, we're only half way through and there's a looooong way to go. If Peu keeps playing the way they did last night, there's nothing that can stop us. We're hungry!! We haven't been to a World Cup since the 80's. 2010 is our year and we proved that these past two games. Let's have faith in these new boys!!

# Mike says :
11 September, 2008 [ 17:04 ]

peloflex;

Given the team's past, and even the fresh talent, a fan needs to examine any team's chances of making it to a particular goal.

For example; I am a big fan of the Philadelphia Eagles (in the USA, American Football).  At some point last year, things were going very badly for them, but mathematically, it was still possible for them to make it to the championship.

Did I say, "Hey, they're going to make it!"  No.  As big a fan as I am, I didn't set myself up for disappointment.  Instead, I set my expectations to be as realisitic as I could.  "OK, it's possible, but not very likely."  I watched the rest of games for the year, and cheered them on, but realized what was most likely going to happen.

What does this do?  First of all, I wouldn't (and didn't) feel a big emotional let-down when they did not make it.  Secondly, I set myself up for a big uplift, or thrill, if they did make it.

You have to remember peloflex, we aren't the team.  We are the fans.

# peloflex says :
11 September, 2008 [ 17:24 ]

Mike,

I know that technic... and I don't share it. I am sorry, I rather be brave and take it as a man, I rather take it in the chest if it comes to that. we shall not always win... we shall always fight!

If it was true what you say about the past of things... Peru as a country should still have terrorism and stayed underground with debt... but no, things change for good sometimes...

Perhaps the part that you don't understand is that this is not about "teams"... this is about our country, and on top of being a fan I am Peruvian and I must stay put until the end. I don't mind having to pay my $30 to see my country lose. hey! my 30 bucks is nothing compared to all the players do on the field and the very least I can do is to think possitive and pray for them.

peloflex

# Oliver says :
11 September, 2008 [ 19:10 ]

Mike, Rice and Sugar.

If Vargas had had the same attitude as you guys. we would have lost the game.

# Raphael says :
11 September, 2008 [ 22:51 ]

pelo,

I will seriously bet you 20 grand that Peru will NOT make the World Cup.  Not with this squad, and this management.  You kidding me? Argentina wasn't even in full force. They weren't 100%, and all we could do was tie them!

You know your team is REALLY bad when you celebrate a tie as if it were a win.  Yes the boys did play with heart, and seeing them play the way they did on the pitch last night made me damn proud.  But lets be realistic.  You want them to go to the world cup for what? For them to get embarassed on the world stage? get out of here.

If you're not willing to bet then don't even bother responding...

# Oliver says :
12 September, 2008 [ 01:56 ]

hehehe relax raphael.

We all know that the chances are slim. But there are different people in this world some are glass half empty some are glass half full. What we are talking about here is that we want Peru to win in order to provide us with national pride. Thats what soccer teams and sporting teams do.

As for Argentina not being 100% yes correct but neither was Peru. And if and whats whatever. The way that Peru played that game deserved respect and admiration from its fans.

# Raphael Cotrina says :
12 September, 2008 [ 12:06 ]

True,
I'll tell you this though...
The squad that played against Argentina that night had WAY more heart and strength, and skill, then Guerrero, Farfan, or Pizzaro will ever have.  This team was playing with pride, something that these three clowns have forgotten all about ever since being slapped with millions of Euros.  Next up to be ruined before he even starts is Manco...
That kid is already showing signs...

# Mike says :
12 September, 2008 [ 12:31 ]

The argument isn't whether the glass is half full or half empty - it is whether or not the glass exists.

# peloflex says :
12 September, 2008 [ 13:57 ]

Raphael,

I get the feeling that you are one of those peruvians, most likely from Lima that speak with an argentinian accent and think of argentinians as they are gods... jajaa... I feel so sorry for people like you...

And to be honest I don't have the slightest interest to interact with someone like you, so save it!

# rice and sugar says :
12 September, 2008 [ 14:09 ]

Dear Peloflex,
Having a bad hair day today?

I love the passion in your writing. You are so explosive and visceral. I remember agreeeing with you on other subjects, so I will forgive you your insults ("loser", "a shame for Peru", etc.).
However, if Peru qualifies to the Wold Cup, I will be first one to celebrate - just like you.
Johan Fano, Juan Vargas - they are great players. I have faith that they will fight "hasta quemar el ultimo cartucho".

But I am REALISTIC - that is all. Viva el Peru!

# peloflex says :
12 September, 2008 [ 18:34 ]

Rice and Sugar,

I am glad to see that you want to be on the most positive side of things. Thank you!

What most people in here don't realize (perhaps their heavily pesimistic attitude don't let them) is that with all the problems we had to go through with the scandals and suspensions and all... we have actually touched rock bottom and things could never get any worse. but as awlays... after the storm.... there is the calm...

Now we have discovered all the new talent we have, players like Zambrano and Sanchez... Alva... they can really play and they have the courage, but that doesn't end there... Now the so called "super stars" will never give for granted their participation and would have to fight for it as it always should have been. The result? we would end up having good quality players like Guerrero and Farfan sitting on the bench waiting for their chance to get up and play... on man! I really look forward to that, cause no one can doubt what they are capable of doing under the right circumstances.

The most positive balance is that Del Solar was not removed and now he has this good results that give him the respect among the players. removing Del Solar would have postpone any chance for improvement who knows for how long...

# Cortez says :
13 September, 2008 [ 13:26 ]

Vargas is probably one of, if not the, best players on the Peruvian team.

# Raphael says :
13 September, 2008 [ 20:46 ]

pelo,

You're ASSUMING I'm something I'm not, and with your **** *** assumption, you're coming to a stupid and invalid conclusion.

Why the hell would I praise the args?  I have no problems with any other countries but its morons like you that make me ashamed to be Peruvian at times.  From Lima? Try again. Accent? Pfft. Riiight...

Feel sorry for me?  Brother, I give you my word that I'm probably more educated and successful then you'd ever dream of being.
So sit back, and try again.

# peloflex says :
13 September, 2008 [ 21:35 ]

it's all about perception, MY WELL EDUCATED FREN!... LOL!

Based on your reaction, it's obvious that I hit it right in the nail...
the fact that you are so very well educated and successful doesn't mean that I can't feel sorry for you, the only word that is going to save you from being COMPLETELY WRONG is that you said "probably" ... so yes, you are right about that .... you are PROBABLY more educated and successful... and I don't mind you thinking that way as long as you quit trying to immitate the argentinias and quit putting them on a pedestal. (read your own comment when you said that they weren't at a 100%... that equals praising to me)

just take a deep breath and play some tango, so you can relax a bit.. :)

# peloflex says :
13 September, 2008 [ 21:47 ]

Cortez,

You are right, Vargas has a lot of power and knows how to use it... that makes him a very valuable player, but please consider Rainer Torres as a possible candidate to be top on the list. I have watched the game three times already, he's just a little machine who doesn't know about giving up, reminds me of Jayo Legario on his good years.

# Raphael says :
13 September, 2008 [ 22:00 ]

So... you wont take me on for those 20 gees then?
You my friend are a shmuck. If it had been say Venezuela or Brazil or any other country who wasn't playing at 100% of their game, I would have said the exact same thing.  You call that idolizing?
You're running off in a completely different direction here with this assumption of arg praisal argument. Try and stay with me here.  Either that or quit changing the topic and give me a yes or no answer on a bet since you seem to love to type so much behind your safe closed doors of your mud hut, or internet cafe or whatever it is you use to get online.

Or maybe YOU'RE the one living in Lima with that whole fake accent BS you were talking about? Nevermind, I highly doubt that.

# peloflex says :
14 September, 2008 [ 19:27 ]

You are nothing but another typical brand new guy here in LIP...  believe me when I say that I have been right there where you are right now, but hey! eventually you will learn how to relax and not to go into pieces everytime someone uncovers your flaws.

Look, you really don't need to spend your 20 lucas to be entitled to your opinion in here... welcome to the virtual world!!!

As I told you before, I have no interest on interacting with someone like you. just take it as it is.

now take a deep breath and smile :)

# Raphael says :
14 September, 2008 [ 20:14 ]

Riiiiiight.....
Flaws? HAHAHA,  Are you even reading anything I'm writing?

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# Raphael says :
14 September, 2008 [ 23:48 ]

You're a waste of skin brother.  The load that mommy should have swallowed.  You really make all Peruvians proud there buddy.

# peloflex says :
15 September, 2008 [ 12:04 ]

what happened there LIP?

I don't understand why you would ban my post when it contained no insults, NOT MY STYLE!... I see lots of lots of people insulting each other way more in here... and no banning there...

I just wanted to get things straight in here. I DO NOT FEEL LIKE I HAVE BROKEN ANY RULES.

No abusive (cause I was more on the defensive side)
No threatening (read my posts)
No Defamatory (again, read my posts)
No Vulgar Nor Obscene
No nothing...

I guess this guy ended up making his 20G's donation to the starving guys here on LIP.  I always knew I was too much for this crowd.

Now you can ban me all you want. Do it with pleasure! and do it over and over again... see if by doing that, you can somehow reafirm your ASSETS!

To all the nice people I met here, although not many but some, I say Fairwell! and thank you reading.

peloflex

# Raphael says :
17 September, 2008 [ 17:10 ]

I have no clue on what you're talking about but if you were banned it's probably because of how much of a clownish shmuck you portray yourself to be.  Either that or you're just "too much" for "this crowd"
*sigh*

Feel free to let loose on me with no holds barred through email raphaelcotrina@hotmail.com. No moderators, no rules. Anytime you're feeling froggy son.

# peloflex says :
18 September, 2008 [ 19:22 ]

yeah, sure you have no clue, funny guy.

look. I know for a fact that I will never learn anything possitive from you, so why would I keep on going with this? I don't even find needed to pay attention to your BS.

All I know is like the saying reads... "de todo hay en las vinas del Senor..." and I know some people need the argument to survive, so you would wish for me to play this game on and on... but to be perfectly honest with you... I find you boring... but why would I expect anything else?... after all, you are just a cotrina. pfff!

go play your crap with someone else on your same level.

# Raphael says :
19 September, 2008 [ 16:55 ]

LOL. We're playing what now? Are you upset and grumpy becuase you got sonned? I guess you'll think twice next time before making stupid comments at people and know your vulnerable to get your card pulled, right?

Just a Cotrina... HAHAHA bad name to have in Trujillo from what I hear.  You have my full name and can probably track me from anywhere in the world tough guy. I have nothing to hide... but what about you? I'm pretty sure if it were to come down to the LIP comments section requiring you to put in your full name and address, I'm positive you'd be so spineless, that you'd be singing a different tune.

# peloflex says :
19 September, 2008 [ 17:00 ]

whatever you say Mr LETRINA!... .jajaaaa

# Raphael says :
19 September, 2008 [ 17:03 ]

Exactly what I'm talking about.  You internet tough guys never fail.  Like I said before, you talk brave when its behind your closed doors right?

# peloflex says :
19 September, 2008 [ 17:16 ]

brave?

show me where I talked brave please!!!

All I've been asking you is to go with your circus somewhere else... so don't try to play the victim role here ma'am!

So show me! or better yet, show everyone.... come on! let me know if you need any assistance copying and pasting. I will be here waiting.

And you know what? you are even funnier that what I thought. are you seriously saying that I could track you down with that last name????  LMAO!!!!  It would take me at least five years to go through all the "planillas" or perhaps every single combi companies there are out there to find you. so no thanks!

# Raphael says :
19 September, 2008 [ 17:21 ]

I can tell you right now, if we were face to face... you WOULD NOT be name calling or flipping my name the way you do. I give you my word on that.  What is your name again there young brave heart? You have mine, so share yours... email it to me if you like. It's a small world and I'm sure if I had your name we'd be bound to bump into eachother sooner then later.

# peloflex says :
19 September, 2008 [ 17:56 ]

LOL!!!

So who is the tough guy now???

Im sure your friends here from LIP wont find your last post to be threatening...

# Raphael says :
19 September, 2008 [ 18:11 ]

Why the back paddling now? Answer my questions you little eager beaver.  Wait... I thought you were done with me? Whatever happened to:

"why would I keep on going with this? I don't even find needed to pay attention to your BS." or "To all the nice people I met here, although not many but some, I say Fairwell"?

If you dont even have a spine to give me YOUR name then why talk smack online? What are you, some 15 year old coward who only grows a back bone when your behind the safety of your computer screen? Admit that and I'll leave you alone, but until then, we can keep this going, and I'll just keep pulling your card.

Let's see if you'll actually be relevant with your response and not come with no corny jokes or cheap insults.  Grow a back bone sonny! Otherwise who's ever gonna take you serious? Didn't mommy or daddy ever teach you that?

# peloflex says :
19 September, 2008 [ 18:24 ]

look, if growing a back bone means I will be entitled to attack mom's and dad's while I am on a fight... then I had it all wrong since the very beggining. As far as I know... whoever brings mom or dad into a fight is the coward... and for the records... this is the second time you do that.

And as far as I can remember, I saw that happening a lot during my high school years... exactly the 15 year old cowards that you mentioned on your last post.

Lastly, if that fact that I am still here and playing your game (having some fun) really bothers you... and you want to be the one having the last word... oh boy you are even more boring that what I thought...

And since I dont like involving parents in here, I would recommend that you go and look for your older brother or best friend and ask him to explain to you the basics of internet usage. first golden rule "never give out your name to strangers" specially if your name is not as comon as Letrina. hmm! I mean Cotrina.

# Raphael says :
19 September, 2008 [ 18:39 ]

I asked you if your parents taught you somethng. I didnt say anything foul... maybe the first time around but fine... we'll leave mom and dad out of this.

So in other words, youre the typical braveheart internet thug when you know its a safe fact that you'll most likely never have to come face to face with me right?  You had me laughing out loud with that whole "fairwell... im done with you" crap, because I can tell that without this, you have nothing else.

I can see right through a mark like you, and I can tell the way you dance around anything that I ask or say to you, avoiding the fact  that youre a nobody wishing you were somebody, and if you dont win this argument or get the last word, then what else is left for you?

Right? I'd say a safe bet would be that you'll respond not becuase you choose to, but because you HAVE to. You're not gonna let that Cotrina guy talk to YOU like that are you!? Must be sad knowing that DEEP down inside, youre always going to be that guy that never had the heart to ever face anyone in REAL life.  Especially me. Not EVER.

The internet is a safe place buddy.  Trust me.  You're living proof.

# peloflex says :
19 September, 2008 [ 19:14 ]

WOW!  WOW!!!

hey you better watch it man! you are running very high RPM's now... I have seen guys like you exploding and making a mess all over the LIP aisles...  you are just about to overheat and trust me, I dont want anything bad to happen to you, so take it easy for a while now... go take a walk on the park or go talk to your flowers, then come back and try rephrasing yourself.

Just remember something... YOU are the one who brought me back in here...  you and just you! and it's so very obvious that now you wish you would have never done so. but this isn't so bad... it will go away and the you would have learn your internet lesson.

# Raphael says :
19 September, 2008 [ 19:58 ]

I brought you back here? LOL... what the hell are you talking about?  Try addressing at LEAST one thing I've brought TO you, and we'll discuss.  Or better yet, lets get back to the topic at hand since we've already discovered youre some punk that hides behind closed doors, and that you dont have the ****** to step, or talk to ANYONE in REAL person, face to face...

Peru's not making the World Cup.  And if myself or anyone on here doesnt agree with your pipe dreams, then learn to deal with it properly, and maybe I wont make you look like a complete *** again.

On a side note, you wont ever leave this site bud.  This site, and your cute brave ******* comments is all you'll ever have.  Besides this site and your freedom to be a **** on here...THATS IT. I can tell Im hitting a nerve the way you respond and dance so well around every point.

Im off for the night but I expect something passionate and well written next time I get an email notification.

# peloflex says :
19 September, 2008 [ 20:44 ]

cheap insults huh?

I see you have started addressing your own issues now, That's a real improvement!

just do yourself a favor and try not to dream about me tonite... that could get scary...

# Raphael says :
20 September, 2008 [ 11:00 ]

Uh, I hate to break it to you, but im sure that there aint NOBOSY thinking or dreaming about you.

I meant out as in a night on the town. Nightlife, girlfriends, friends, social stuff... things you ought to try instead of trying to look like a smart a** on the internet. Correct?

# peloflex says :
20 September, 2008 [ 14:39 ]

NOBOSY???

are you making up your own words now?

I know, I know... the "S" is right next to the "D" ... and apparently your fingers are as dumb as your tinny little brain... specially today after another crazy night out ...or is it just you getting all nervous everytime you sit your marshmellows in front of the PC to write to me?

You know what? I am extremelly happy that you have finally listened to my advice and decided to go looking for fresh air.. man you really got me worried last night, I even felt bad for a while thinking I was a little too hard on you, although I wasnt really trying.

I can see you had the LIP team very busy editing one of your cheapies...

And I was also worried cause since I know now you have a crystal ball with you (only way you could know the teams that will qualify for the world cup) I forgot to recommend to you that you better make sure you dont leave that ball in bed with you overnight... cause you might wake up showing a cute belly in the morning.. lol 

# Raphael says :
20 September, 2008 [ 14:44 ]

Good come back smart guy. I guess youre a homo sexual right?  You actually think and get worried about me? Pretty gay...

# peloflex says :
20 September, 2008 [ 16:41 ]

How did I know this was going to happen sooner or later? ... no wonder people always pride my common sense.... I was expecting that from you like 2+2 equals 4...now I am gay... LOL!!!

You know what? I don't have a problem with you or anyone else calling me gay or homo, little boy, I went through that barrier loong time ago... but looks like for you it is still a big deal... to be or not to be?... I bet it would traumatic someone calling you homo, well, I won't call you a homo simply because that would be totally irrelevant to this thread, so even if you are one, you could still be smarter than me and be right about the topic. Of course, that's a no to both.

And once again, my little street clown from Plaza San Martin, I am going to try to be the bigger guy here, so slurp your drool and pay close attention:

Going back and focus on the main topic here... these are you own words from last nite... "Peru is not making the World Cup... and if myself or anyone here doesnt agree with your pipe dreams, then learn to deal with it properly and maybe I wont make you look like a complete *** again...."
Ok, as far as anyone here can go back on the thread and check how this whole senseless arguement has started. So go on and read what Oliver wrote for you after your first post. 
Do you really think that entering the thread , going into making an unkwown assesment and acting like you know it all and on top of that, showing off about how much money you have or you dont was the proper way of dealing with other people's opinion? COME ON!!!

If you were an argentinian, I would totaly be cool about it. only then it would make sense that you are trying to say they tie BECAUSE THEY DIDNT PLAY WELL... THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT ARGENTINIANS DO EVERY SINGLE TIME THEY CAN'T WIN.  THEY ARE NEVER GOOD AT ACCEPTING THAT THE OTHER TEAM DID A GOOD JOB. NEVER!!!!

Oliver was absolutely right, no team played at a 100%, and it was childish of you to say that only Argentina was not full force.

I have never said that Peru will make it. GO AND READ! I did not say that because I dont know and if you being peruvian say that is because you are a loser, plain and simple.

Also, you saying that Peru shouldn't even try to go there because it would be embarrasing... guy you know very little about futbol and sports in general. This is a very long process and anything can happen, teams become teams match after match...
Costa Rica was on the world cup recently... were they embarrased? I dont think so. they didnt win, but they were there and that's what counts.

Lastly, sticking to your own words, if you disaprove the fact that we celebrate a tie and you think that's so terribly wrong? .. .AGAIN YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT FUTBOL...  which is a highly psycological sport, but you would have to be a player or a former futboler to understand that.

You see? I am taking the time to examine your entries and being condescendent with. now is your turn to put in practice all your recommendations about growing a back bone or whatever and come tell me who is the one who did not know how to deal with other people's opinion and/or feelings.

# Raphael says :
20 September, 2008 [ 17:32 ]

*yaaawn*... so you ARE a fag then? Thats gross.

# peloflex says :
20 September, 2008 [ 18:12 ]

you see Cotrina?

the same guy who came in here a few days ago and sounded like a high roller wanting to bet 20 G's... is now nothing but a stinking, partially smashed, crawling cockroach...  LEARN!!! it means nothing to have money in your pockets, when you have nothing up above your neck... I made your 20 G's go to fumes even without any bets... now everyone knows the type of guy you are... and I since I am so done with you, I will let the rest of the forum to be your judge and finish you.

te me quedaste CORTINA, Cotrina.  JAJAJAAAA!!!

# Raphael says :
20 September, 2008 [ 18:26 ]

LOL...dude, I cant believe how seriously you are taking this whole mess.  look at how easy it is to make you go nuts...watch...

hey pelofag... youre stupid!

*waits for response*